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Student Loan Bail Out – What We Didn’t Sign Up For

Student Loan Bail Out - What We Didn't Sign Up For

Every week or so I run a search for updated information on a student loan bail out in the United States. Why? Because my husband and I are making a household income of less than $29,000 a year, and our student loans are combined at over $76,000 (it is on a $0 Income Based Repayment plan, but the interest capitalizes and swells up the debt farther and farther). This is not what I want, nor is it the life I envisioned after spending over half my life being told that education was the way to find success and gain worthwhile employment in life.

In my searches for student loan debt crisis and bail out information, I see a lot of people strongly opposing the government stepping in and washing away the huge load of debt. In some ways, I agree with this sentiment, however, I think those against the bail outs are not considering the issues I face, such as:

1) I have a high level of stress as to how we will ever pay these loans back. YES, if you stay on the Income Based repayment plan for 25 years, anything not paid off goes away. To the contrary, though, my goal in life is NOT to remain in a poverty income level. Even so, we can only do what we can do at this point. My understanding, though, is that if we do not stay in the Income Based Repayment income level for 25 years straight, we owe all that money, plus the thousands of dollars of compounding interest. Is that unfair? Yes and no. Yes it is what I ultimately agreed to (it was either that or default), but inflating my loan and punishing me for being able to pay in the future is not right in my opinion.

2) I would love to make $100,000 a year and pay those loans back, as agreed, with the full interest asked – but where are the jobs I was promised? The student loan offices told me I would make $50k a year and so I should live off of the federal loans, focus on school, and then watch how easy it would all be to repay. I was lied to. I was bait and switched.

3) The university sets the tuition terms, and the government hands out this money for student loans without considering anything about the student! “Barely pass high school? Borrow this money, no problem! Want to major in basket weaving? Just sign on the dotted line, they’ll be $50k a year jobs waiting for you at the end of the four-year rainbow! You have maxed out credit cards and are about to file bankruptcy? We don’t even consider that!”

This loan should have been reserved for high performing academics who were entering majors in certain fields needed by the United States (doctors, engineers, etc etc etc). In a worst case scenario, the government should have said, something like “we can give loans to x amount of people entering Chemistry, x amount in biology, x amount in psychology, x amount in sociology…” and so forth. This was a supply and demand issue that has now caused PhD’s to work at McJobs and many others to have no way to repay these loans because the market was over-saturated.

4) To this day I have still never owned a Smart Phone, or any of the other “cool” things that those against student loan bail outs claim I used my money for. You know where my loans went? Tuition, Books (some at $200-500 EACH because of that lovely university printing press and edition scam), Rent, Daycare, and Food. Sure, not every college student has children to care for, and there will always be people abusing the system to buy things they shouldn’t, but then why make the cash available in the first place? Anyone who’s taken a simple psychology class, or watched enough Dr. Phil, knows that the brain isn’t fully developed until the mid-twenties, which means most college students taking out student loans can’t see far enough down the road to understand that any negative implications exist.

6) There is blame to be put onto the borrowers, however, I was not the one promoting college as “the only way to a high paying future” since I first entered a public school. I didn’t post up photographs of all the graduating Seniors in the 12th grade who were attending college as an “inspiration” to follow in their footsteps, no matter what the cost. And, while I realize in hindsight that my career/income goals were unrealistic, I did not realize in my teens and early twenties that I was making a deal with the Devil, as it were. “I’ll save your life now, and you just give me your first born child in ten years!” was the essential deal we made. We were targeted and exploited, and our “reward” was a worthless piece of paper.

7) Much like the housing market crash, people believed that if they got approved for the loan, then they must be able to repay it. Also similar is the inflated cost of homes and tuition in schools. I bought a house last year, when our income was higher. We make due alright, but I’ve noticed a huge drop in housing values in the year we’ve lived in our house. Now, houses listed in 2012 for $150k are valued at $50k. Likewise, the degree that earns $30k a year, tops, should not cost $35k to obtain. It has an up-side-down value when compared to the job market. So housing and student loan debt was not a malicious attempt to steal from or hurt anyone, it is ignorance to reality mixed with predatory lending and manufactured prices. Very smart people worked very hard to fleece many of us.

8)  The government unfairly decides who can go to college for free.  If you are deemed to be from a low income family who “can’t afford college,” you will likely get something like a Pell Grant to pay your tuition for you!  But I, as someone in a low income adult family, am expected to come up with the money to pay back these loans because my parents weren’t broke when I entered the system.  Lets either make college free for all, or give out free money on merit based achievements (ie academics or a talent like sports), NOT just because Suzy has two working parents and Johnny lives with his Grandma who draws Social Security.  That just puts Suzy on wellfare later because she can’t get a job to get her out of her crippling debt!

Here are my personal suggestions for the government dealing with student loan debt:

1) Erasing the debt for everyone would be ideal. However, I can see negative implications across the board from this happening as well. Remember the huge bail outs given to the banks for the housing market? Not a single Joe Nobody had their debt erased, and none of them got to keep their house all the same.

2) Lower the interest rates! Have you seen the details on a student loan bill? Half of your money for five years (on a ten year repayment plan) goes to interest! If I’m borrowing $40k for a degree from a state university, how about I pay back a flat $45k instead of $80k-200K?

3) Make compounding interest disappear! Again, this doesn’t fix all the problems, but it would help millions of former students get their debt repaid easier.

4) Allow student loans to go into bankruptcy. That way, if you didn’t get what you bought into, you at least have some out. Personally, I would declare bankruptcy tomorrow to get the loans off of my back, because I can’t find a single full time job that pays more than minimum wage.

5) Lets scale way back on the 25 years of poverty rule. How about we set up something like a five or ten year “too broke to pay” plan?

6) Make colleges accountable! Like tropical fish, they will grow to the size of their environment, so the more English majors that apply, the more they will expand their department to accommodate. The more we raise the student loan withdraw ceiling, the more the universities will charge! I shouldn’t need any loan to attend a PUBLIC and state sponsored school, it should be a low cost per credit hour fee. But, because the school can get it, the will, and because they don’t have to answer for drop out rates or under-employment/unemployment, they won’t .

7) Freeze interest for those in any type of repayment modification. If you are deferred or on an income based plan, getting help doesn’t help you in the long run, it earns the loan a higher total. It’s a debt spiral that easily gets out of control, and could just as easily be put to a stop.

As an example, let me share a story of my friend and the sorority. My friend hit financial issues, didn’t have money for dues, and so was dismissed from meetings and events, while also being charged $50 for each event she missed. So, if she didn’t have $200 to pay off her dues on Monday, how was she expected to come up with $250 on Sunday after missing a meeting? It was ultimately an unfair way to weed out any “poor girls.” That’s the same principle with interest rates, and especially those compounding ones.

Why, if no one can pay their tab, don’t we do something about that? No one really wants to welch on their debts, but we get driven in that direction. So why doesn’t anyone stop it? Well, because companies love it when students default (which is why so many of the lifelines we’re given have unclear and difficult to follow directions) because then Uncle Sam pays your tab, and you STILL owe the money too – so they get to double dip!

This fix isn’t rocket science, but it does involve making LESS money for businesses, so nothing gets resolved. I don’t necessarily want my debt erased (I’ll take it if you’re offering, but I don’t expect it), but I don’t need my debt getting worse off because of my financial status – and all because I believe that education was the key to success!

Student Loan Repayment – Mission Impossible

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I’m a little more than frustrated today.  I’ve been trying to get my hard working husband set up to request the federal student loans Income Based Repayment plan.  He has a four year degree, and despite the student loan office at Ohio State swearing that would earn him $50k a year, he makes about $12 a hour in the ONLY full time job offer he’s had since being honorably discharged with the military.  This will be our second year that both of us are applying to defer our combined $70k+ in debt (roughly $30k a year income for a family of four), and it’s getting ugly.

In 2012, my husband’s student loans were sold off to Sallie Mae.  You may think, “well, it’s supposed to be a government affiliated, so that is the same as the Department of Education owning your loan.”  That’s not quite true on several levels, especially if you need assistance.

First, Sallie Mae will appear to have tons and tons of repayment options available.  It’s true, they do exist, but finding them can be a particularly challenging task.  Somehow, I stumbled upon the Income Based Repayment (IBR) form and got it ready, had my husband sign off on it, and mailed it away along with our 2012 tax return copy.  Simple right?  WRONG!

Magically, the IBR application never reached their office, despite being mailed a little over sixty days before repayment was set to beging.  I don’t know how many letters they get in a month, but you would think that sixty days would be enough to get to my husband’s deferment application.  Who knows, perhaps the papers will resurface in the future, but it seems like offering an option to mail the application is a trap.  If they say they didn’t get your application in time, you are paying money you may very well not have until they get the matter straightened out.  Sure, it will probably go to an IBR plan eventually, but you are screwed until that time comes in, even when you did everything right on your end.

If you think I’m being paranoid, try applying for any kind of government assistance (which I have in past years).  Daycare assistance, food stamps, medical coverage – many applications will suspiciously get bounced around and disappear no matter how they were turned in, or how much need a person has.  I remember going back to school and asking for daycare help, based on income I was supposed to pay $1 a month with assistance, but what happened to my applications?  No one knows, but I was stuck spending $250 A WEEK until that was straightened out, and if I had not had signed/dated receipts for our two dozen application turn ins, and a furious husband willing to fight for the assistance, that would have NEVER been refunded.  I would have dropped out of school from a lack of money to pay for daycare.  Every time they lost my application, they had the potential to save their department $1,000 a month in child care costs.  In short, you as an individual are not as important as the budget, and that is especially true in populated areas that are short on funds.

Back to Sallie Mae.  My second issue is that their website is confusing and unstable.  When I tried to log in and redownload the IBR form, it was nowhere to be found!  I looked everywhere, even went into the online forms section, and there was no IBR form.  I filled out the “See if You Qualify” preliminary form, and all I got were “error” messages and glitches that sent me to the loan homepage.  I even Googled “Sallie Mae IBR Form” and NOTHING could directly link me to get this document again now that the loans were due!  Notice that the section to submit payment never acts up like this.

Worried, I checked my Downloads folder on my computer, and luckily for us, the previous IBR form I had downloaded was still there.  So, I printed it, filled it out again, got my husband to sign it, and went to upload it online this time.  Simple right?  STILL WRONG!

Sallie Mae is a student loan company, and that’s pretty much all it has ever been.  So, dealing in forms and fees is all they do.  Now, I’ve learned that forms disappear and hide, both online and when physically printed and mailed in, but electronically submitted forms leave a trail that’s harder to lose.  However, despite being a big, money oriented company, Sallie Mae offers a confusing upload process.  You must log in, find the proper section to upload into (I suspect many forms get “rejected” for not going into the proper folder) and then find out that the document you are uploading, no matter how many pages are involved in the form, has to be UNDER 5 MB!

Why is the upload size so small?  Surely they can afford IT professionals and larger capacities to make this a non-issue.  I had to rescan and reformat the document three times to get even two pages to upload without rejection.  This, to me, is like Google blaming the users for click bombing (I’ll let those of you who are unfamiliar with this term look it up yourselves) when Google writes the codes and could easily disable people from multi-clicking advertisements.  If Sallie Mae makes it nearly impossible for you to upload or snail mail your applications for IBR, or other deferment plans, it is still your problem, your fault, and your responsibility.

I’m sorry, but once you teach the dealers to cheat in a casino to avoid losing money, you’ve ruined the system for everyone, and that is exactly what this is.  Sallie Mae is a company that sets out to make money, the fact that it is government sponsored does not change that fact.  If they were here to help students and truly keep them out of default, forms would be more readily available, uploads would have much larger limitations, and mailed forms would not vanish off the face of the earth.  Funny that I never had an application to apply for student loans or a payment go missing like that, don’t you think?

All companies making a profit WANT you to DEFAULT.  Why?  Because then the government pays your tab AND the bank still gets to come after you for the rest of your life to pay the loans.  The laws have made these loans nearly impossible to discharge in bankruptcy, so the banks can come after you legally for the rest of your life, and inflate you interest rate to just about whatever they want in the process too.

Pretty sweet deal.  You get an education, find no decent paying jobs anywhere, and then have a swelling debt over your head for ages to come.  If that weren’t stressful enough, you have to worry about these petty games when you have no money to pay the loans back, even though these places are supposed to be there to “help” you.  This could only be worse if the loans were private instead of federal!  I am sorry to all of you poor souls with private loans – truly!