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Extra Curriculars – A Moms Personal Hell

With it being Summer time, I’m already planning out the schedule for my 8 and 11 year olds for next school year.  With one in elementary and one in middle school, it’s a daunting, exhausting task as more and more options open up due to their ages.  Now, we went from a $40k a year household of four to a $15k a year household of five, so not only do we need to choose activities wisely, we also have a new baby which means that mommy doesn’t want to sit in the car or in a parents holding cell for hours on end while the older kids do their thing.

Looking back with 100% honesty, I would discourage you from pushing your children to do or sign up for something that isn’t their idea.  Also, do not listen to a three-nager about what he/she is willing to do.  In either scenario, it will be a battle to drag them to everything, and you will waste a lot of time and money just because you’re exited to have them involved in something.  Take your time, remember you have over a decade for your children to find “their thing” even after they enter elementary school, and parenting is not a competition, so just because your overbearing relatives or neighbors do something does NOT mean that you need to follow suit.

I don’t know yet what all my kids will end up doing this Fall, but I wanted to outline most of the activities we have done and give my two cents on each of them.

Here’s a list of most of the things that my kids have done over the past six-ish years:

  • Flag Football
  • Soccer
  • Tae Kwon Do
  • Karate
  • Girl Scouts
  • Cub Scouts
  • Boy Scouts
  • Dance
  • Gymnastics
  • Reading Bowl Team
  • Golf
  • Track
  • Recreational Cheer
  • Pokemon Card Gaming
  • Math Club
  • Art Club
  • Theatre Plays
  • Junior Beta Club
  • Science Fair
  • Gifted Program
  • Piano Lessons
  • Various Camps
  • 4-H
    • County Council
    • Horse Club
    • Robotics Club
    • Archery Team
    • Public Speaking Contest

 

Basically, if my kids want to try it, we’ve let them.  Here is my breakdown of the programs we experienced, the cost, the time involved, and my overall impressions.  Your mileage may vary, so, as always, use your best judgement and do your own research.

4-H – this is by far the most diverse program, so I will start here.  We are fortunate enough to live in an area where 4-H is largely used as a way to supplement home schooled children with clubs, teams, and other social engagements (whereas other areas, I’ve heard, only use 4-H for county fair projects).  We try to take advantage of all of the programs through 4-H that we can because they’re well run and often very affordable because 4-H is run through state universities and NOT private corporations or non-profits.  This means they don’t rely solely on donations or the kids’ fundraising efforts to support the programs, so you aren’t out trying to shame all of your friends and relatives into buying cookies all the time.

County Council – This is a 4-H program that allows any members to meet and have educational/social opportunities.  For us, it’s a monthly program that’s free to participate in, and you will learn about all other 4-H opportunities here as well.

Horse Club – Again, we’re lucky here, because we don’t have to own a horse to join.  It can be as little as going to meetings to learn about various horse topics, or you can go as far as to join their horse quiz bowl team or show your horse (if you have one).  Once a month and $20 a year, which includes a trophy at the end of the year, so it’s a no-stress club to be apart of.

Robotics Club – This one was pricey, at $100 for the school year, but the Lego Robotic kits are obscenely expensive (I believe they start at $500).  The instructor was an engineer, and the kids split into groups to compete against each other.  If you do well, you can try out for the Robotics Team that competes against other teams across the state/country.

Archery Team – This was another one at the $100 mark, but it’s for the entire year, includes a team shirt and three competition entry fees, plus all time on the indoor/outdoor shooting range and coaching.  Compared to what I hear other moms spend on Baseball or competitive cheer, $100 is nothing.  BUT, Archery is a sport where you have to get your own equipment to shoot with, and what you spend can easily be proportional to how well your child can perform.  For instance, you can’t go buy the $30 Little Sioux bow at Walmart and compete, you need at least $100 bow (closer to $200 for a starter compound bow).  If your child shoots the traditional recurve bow, you will need a new one every time they grow or get stronger.  If you go with compound and get the cheaper bow, like Genesis, they will still outgrow it quickly and need a $400-700 bow to continue advancing in the sport.  Plus, arrows!  Your kid will lose or break arrows like crazy, and the decent arrows run at least $5 each.  Not to mention arm guards, sights, quivers, releases – seriously, the richer kids will do much better just because they can afford better equipment and more upgrades.  I wish we had joined the BB Team instead, because everyone in the nation uses the same $150 gun, no other options or add ons after that.

Public Speaking Contest – Where we live, this requires a 4-6 minute speech that the child writes, and visual aids.  As the kids get older, participating in this competition will include free camping trips.  But, my son has done this for two years now, placed 1st both years, and he isn’t much for social conversation, but he knows how to really “wow” when he does presentations now.  It’s free to enter, so this is something I force him to do – and there is a lot of fighting about not wanting to write the speech or practice, but he publicly speaks better than anyone else in his grade, so I find that to be a valuable trait to have.

Flag Football – This was through both the YMCA and a private league.  Both were a little on the pricey side at around $150 per 6 week season, and since my son was younger, I don’t think he really benefited from it or learned anything.  At his request, he hasn’t been in football since 2010. With both programs, we had trouble with the volunteer coaches showing up, so, if you are not willing to volunteer and commit to coaching, I wouldn’t waste the money hoping that another parent will do a decent job at it.

Recreational Cheer – My daughter did this program through a private franchise business.  I believe it was $110 for a 7 week season, which included the uniform (minus shoes and an undershirt), a trophy, and a sportsmanship medal for when my daughter exhibited a particular trait of the week.  She loved it, the coach was great, everything was very professional, and I appreciated that practice and games were on the same day with this league.  We are considering competitive cheer for the Fall, but the price grows exponentially for a half year program – from $750-1,800! 

Golf – This  was a 6 week program through the school for $20.  We gave it a try and it was fun, but it was more of a sampler class to advertise for an expensive children’s golf league, so we didn’t go forward with it. The kids had some fun hitting the balls around, but they never went farther than that (ie never completed a single hole or regular or mini golf).

Track – For us, this is an eight month program through the school for $20 a year, including a team shirt.  It’s only weekly, right after school (so convenient to not have to travel to practices), and it keeps the kids moving, so we’ve done that for three years now.  The only down side is that you are required to sign up for local races, which will average you about $45 per runner.

Soccer – Both my kids have done soccer through several different programs, but my daughter hated.  This was another problem area for coaches NOT showing up.  Overall, this seems to be a huge problem in any program that takes volunteers, so, always be willing to step in if you’re interested in these programs or else your kids will likely get screwed over.  Again, you look at about $100 per 6-8 week season, some leagues have you practice on multiple days of the week, plus the travel time to the fields (which never seem to be the close ones to my house), it gets exhausting.  Then you have to consider trying to juggle the soccer practice/game schedule with other activities.

I think I’d prefer to wait for the school to offer sports in my son’s grade since it would be cheaper, the coaches would be paid faculty that WILL show up, and also so that I’m not driving 10 miles to this field, 15 to that field, etc, but, I also know that’s a double edged sword.  This biggest problem with any team sports is that if your player hasn’t gotten a good handle of playing skills before middle school, you will never make the cut to get on the team at school, which means you’ll also never be able to catch up to join in high school either.  So, you basically have to commit to these 3rd party sports programs to get your kid where they need to be so that the school can take some of the financial/driving burden off of your shoulders.

Dance – The $60 a month for dance class wasn’t so bad, but all the recital and costume fees really got up there.  I believe the extra fees alone totaled to over $350 more dollars!  A hard reality with dance is that, even though they make classes for 3 year olds, the average kid that age is NOT WORTH $1,000 a year to not learn how to dance.  What do I mean by “not learn?”  You put a small child in a dance class and they are told to sit still, watch, and repeat what the instructor does.  Half the kids will be tracing the floorboards with their fingers, some will have non-stop meltdowns,  and most will want to dance to their own beat and ignore whatever the instructor is telling them.  The kids aren’t learning or understanding technique at this age.  Then the recital rolls around and you have to drag your kids over an hour to whatever crazy location that the studio goes after (to look oh so professional) just to watch them goof around on stage.  Look up pre-school dance recitals on YouTube, 90% of those kids are doing their own thing, and even the ones trying to dance don’t have the motor skills or memory developed to do the who thing.

Gymnastics – Compared to dance, and depending on the places you have available, I find gymnastics to be a much better alternative to dance for the younger kids.  Here, it runs $65 a month with a $15 end-of-the-year trophy fee.  The kids get to run around and work at their own pace/level. However, the risk for injuries greatly increases as your child progresses and does more difficult/dangerous routines.  Now, there’s not a lot of injuries for a while, and if you get on the competitive team the expenses will skyrocket, but, it is a fun activity for younger kids.

Tae Kwon Do – My kids both attended a dojang for about a year, then we pulled them because of multiple policy issues that I’ll list in a moment.  For both kids, it was $110 a month for a 50 minute class that was set up like this:  15 minutes for stretching, 15 minutes for belt forms, 15 minutes for technique or sparring, and 5 minutes for a group game. Now I DO NOT recommend martial arts group classes for a lot of special needs kids.  There are a lot of places that advertise Tae Kwon Do as being great for those kids, but, as someone who has observed it all, all pushing them into martial arts does is make everyone else frustrated, including the parents.  For instance, the kid bouncing off the walls from ADD/ADHD/ODD is not going to want to be still, sit, and listen for the length of time they are required to in class.  What do they do?  They run around, hit other students, disrupt the class, lick the windows, and waste everyone’s time because the instructor is straining to control them.  If you have a kid that can’t be still, martial arts won’t fix them and give them “more focus” like they may claim in an advertisement, and most of those kids never get to advance very far in the belt ranks either because they just can’t do the work involved.  If this is a route you have to go for some reason, do private instruction until your child proves they can handle the curriculum and challenges involved in that, but, personally, I say that if you have a fish, don’t force it to be a monkey and climb a tree – go take it swimming and let your kid excel where they have strengths instead!

My big issues with Tae Kwon Do policy wise were that 1) the place had 13 different belts to earn, 2) the number of stamps on your attendance card was the number one factor that got you a belt test, even if all other requirements were easily met, 3) during belt test season (every other month), kids would spend about 3-5 weeks wasting long stretches of time sitting down in class watching other kids pre-belt test when this should have been handled before/after class, 4) minors could not earn a real black belt and were required to keep attending class until they turned 18 to re-earn it, 5) you weren’t allowed to try higher belt forms with the class, so, again, a lot of time wasted sitting instead of learning, 6) if you asked a question, even privately and off to the side, the owners would yell at you, then give a speech to the class about how they were the Gods of Tae Kwon Do and their policies were law, and 7) they ended up with a dozen different instructors, all contradicting each other, and they kept yelling at the kids for being told different things by different people.

Karate – My husband is actually a black belt, so he started teaching our daughter after we left Tae Kwon Do.  Of course, it’s free that way, and my daughter likes both the time with her dad and the one-on-one attention in “class.”  We like it a lot better since I always felt like so much time and money was being wasted at TKD.  Plus, I’ll tell you a secret with all martial arts:  no one is regulating the belt ranks (the colored belts), often not even the black belts, and it is typically at the instructors discretion.  With that in mind, please pick any dojo, or the equivalent, carefully and don’t go after a belt mill that has 10+ different belts to earn, or a place that makes black belts in a year – these types of places are about taking your money, not giving you quality instruction.

Theatre – Now, there are a few different routes here.  Most areas have community theatres that either do a yearly all-kids production, or they will have kids parts in their normal plays here and there.  There’s also a chance that your school will have a drama club.  The great thing about theatre is that it’s usually very cheap, if not free.  The downside is that it can be a huge time commitment, even if your child has a bit part.  It just depends on the company and the director involved, and we have had positive and negative experiences, so my recommendation would be to research your venues and directors carefully so that you don’t have your kids jerked around.  Also, THIS IS NOT AN AREA TO BE A HELICOPTER PARENT!  Ultimately, you cannot perform for your child, so if they do not have the acting bug and love having lots of strange eyes watching them perform, leave them alone and find a different activity!  My daughter loves it, she will grab a microphone and make up a song on the spot in any given situation (she’s 4-H famous for this…) but my son has awful nerves and hates it.  If it’s not fun for them, don’t force them into acting!

Scouts – I know this post is huge so I want to lump some things together.  Overall, each scout program runs $10-20 a month, plus a yearly registration fee ~$20, and any additional activity fees that you choose to participate in that are optional.  I think Cub Scouts is a solid program that’s good for young boys.  Boy Scouts is still an adjustment for us, with my biggest issues being that I don’t understand what the heck they do at meetings since they aren’t working on rank or merit badge requirements.  We also have a very by-the-book troop that can feel very suffocating since there are so many rules that don’t apply to every situation (ie, we pay for camp, our son signs up for merit badge classes A, B, C, and D, but the troop requires he takes X and Y for a first year, and then plugs him into Z because no one else in the troop wants to take A, and then we end up paying all this camp money for him to do one badge that he actually wants and three we could all care less about).  Boy Scouts is also very time consuming, and because it’s boy led and organized, there isn’t always much notice for anything.  That means playing sports can be a problem, as you will get held back in rank if you aren’t going to troop camp outs, philanthropy services, and other events.  Girl Scouts is a completely different animal.  I feel that they have stifled the curriculum when they changed it in 2011, and a lot of active or outdoorsy badges were removed from the program.  It’s very craft-oriented and can be very boring.  Volunteers are hard to get, and you will spend up to 9 months of your year selling nuts, chocolates, magazines, and cookies as “troop fundraisers.”  In reality, a $30 magazine subscription nets the troop $1 and a box of $5 cookies may warrant them earning $0.50.  In short, Girl Scouts has gotten overly commercialized and greedy with way too many over-priced staff members in their offices.

Reading Bowl – I actually did this myself in middle school.  I think the fee now is $20 to cover the team shirts, and then you dedicate some time after school to practices.  It isn’t a whole year-long program, so that’s nice.  If your child is a strong reader, this is a good program for them to join.  I will say, though, they need to be dedicated to reading every book they can as fast as they can.  This past year, my son tried to spread out the reading over the Summer and forgot a lot about those books by the time the January competition rolled around.  Another good tip – ask your library if you can special order the books on the reading bowl list.  Not every place has every title, but if they have a state-wide agreement, you may be able to reserve the books and get them shipped to your library for free.

Math Club – This was a free after-school program that showed elementary students algebra and geometry.  It is by invitation only (for us), but I would recommended it if it is available to your child.  Common Core math is a nightmare, so any advantage they can get in that department will be beneficial.

Art Club – Another school based club, it ran for several months for $20.  If it is through the school, I would recommend signing your kid up for the program.  If it is an expensive group class through some art center to teach 6-year-olds how to paint, I would not waste a dime on that.  If you’re paying decent sums of money for art classes, wait until your child is at least in middle school and can 1) absorb the information on techniques and 2) actually have an opinion as to whether or not they care about art.  Basically, don’t start them too young and make art a chore – young kids are already happily creative at home for free!

Science Fair – Schools are really amping these things up!  My son did one in Kindergarten involving how well soap cleaned his hands.  He didn’t have the opportunity to do another project until 5th grade, where it is now the “science and engineering fair” and kids are pushed towards creating working devices and machinery.  The list of standards and requirements were insane!  I would check out an interest meeting and see if you are up for coaching your child through a challenge like the new S.T.E.M. science fairs.

Junior Beta Club – This is an academic club that does a few meetings and service projects throughout the school year.  We were charged $20 for membership fees, and we went with it because it’s a national program that looks good on a college application, but I don’t really have a good sense of what the kids do, if anything.

Gifted Program – This is free, paid for by the school, and your child has to test into it.  It comes with faster paced curriculums, more projects to do, and field trips not open to other students.  It’s definitely worth exploring, but they testing can be difficult, especially for younger kids who may not understand why they didn’t score into the program.

Pokemon and other card gaming – I ran the local Pokemon leagues for years, and so I talk to you now from a very burnt-out standpoint.  The card game area is truly pushing out the younger players because the kids who grew up with Magic the Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon and still playing it twenty years later.  They are throwing all of their income at it, and they are destroying your kids in the game minutes after they sit down until they are frustrated and don’t want to play any more.  The cost to getting a starter deck is typically about $15 per game series.  HOWEVER, the cost of having a competitive deck that gives your child a chance at enjoying the game will run up to $700 (much higher for Magic cards).  There are constantly more events that cost more money and new cards being released every few months (which, every time that happens, it tends to render the previous cards useless).  The problem is, even if you don’t want to be competitive, the “for fun” leagues will be overrun with 20 and 30-somethings who are competitive, who have zero tact for dealing with younger people, and most children are already chased out of the leagues from being overwhelmed.  So, finding any other players that are in elementary age is rare, and, generally, kids who are middle school age come with their friends and tend to get bored quickly.  So, my advice to parents is that, unless their kid is insanely, obsessively interested in a game, DO NOT let them know that gaming leagues even exist.

Piano Lessons – I did piano when I was 8.  I was forced into it, hated it, and hated the old teacher I had who would spend most of my lessons in the toilet, on her phone, or complaining about her life in general.  I refused to practice until my mom begrudgingly let me quit.  I do remember that it cost $8 an hour back them.  When my son wanted to try piano at age 6, the price had gone to $30 in a music school – and half an hour of that was computerized “music theory” each week.  I think we lasted about two months before I felt the cost was too high.  Actually, my last straw was getting stuck in a traffic jam, getting there late, and the school refusing to work with us or let my son make up the missed class time, but still demanding payment.  I know that’s a grey area, but, for those high prices you should work with your clients so they don’t feel ripped off.  Now, should your child take piano in elementary school?  Probably not.  They will likely be able to get into the school band and then get lessons in any instrument they want for free starting in middle school, and, if your child is truly interested in piano you can buy them beginner books and they can literally teach themselves.  I remembered nothing from my piano lessons, but followed the books straight through.  The same happened with my son last year in the 4th grade.  Lessons do not equate to motivation.

Summer Camp – These can be tricky, vary a lot in prices, but they may be worth your time and money.  Now, something like dance or gymnastics camp, I would not do again.  They are about 3 hours a day for five days, and with snack time and everything else, the kids aren’t really learning anything for the money.  4-H camp is an over-night week long camp, it is more expensive (but much cheaper than ANY scouting program) and leisurely.  I’d say 4-H camp is more like the stereotypical camping experiences that most people think of where the kids just go and have fun for a week.  Boy Scout summer camp is basically a rank and merit badge machine that’s another over-night, week long event, designed to be a lot of classes that will earn your child a lot of rank.  To the contrary, other Boy Scout camping experiences may be more mellow and let kids play around more.  So, it all just depends on what you’re looking for.  I’ve never had a camp, even the short day camps, cost less than $150, though, so bare in mind that it can be very costly.

 

Fundraisers and the Mom Who Said ENOUGH

This blog has seemed to form into a place where I vent about my frustrations in the adult world.  I guess I’m not one of those people that sees that glass as half-full, and I never really have been – I actually recall explaining in 5th grade that pessimism is better, because you will never be disappointed if you are already expecting a bad outcome.  With that in mind, I invite you to explore the current state of fundraising with me, and let me know by the end if you’re starting to say “enough!” with me.

So, about two years ago my kids became “real” people and started doing things.  Not wibbly-wobbly baby gymnastics or lets-pretend-to-play-football, but they actually started joining clubs, teams, and organizations.  Here is a list of some of our affiliations since 2012:

  • Girl Scouts
  • Cub Scouts
  • Tae Kwon Do
  • 4-H
  • Track
  • Art Club
  • Drama Club
  • Book Bowl Team
  • Gymnastics
  • Dance
  • Cheer
  • Pokemon
  • Horse Club
  • Archery Club
  • Math Club
  • Soccer

For the most part, we stick with short-term, lower cost programs so that the kids can try out different activities and find out what they do/don’t like.  Horse Club, for instance, is one monthly meeting and a $10 yearly fee.  If you get riding lessons and enter shows, that fee starts to grow exponentially, but, to try it out there is very little time/money to risk.  Right now, we’re obviously in the exploratory phases, but, eventually, I’d like to shave this down to a few activities per child.

But, with the exception of Pokemon, every single one of those groups have had fundraisers.  It gets exhausting and embarrassing, because here we are, new to our area with no one to sell to, and anyone we ask is already being hit up from a friend/relative.  So, the only things we are able to sell come out of our own pocket.  Then consider that many of these groups have both of our kids in it, which means we have to try to sell/buy double.  We’re going broke trying to look like decent, contributing members of these groups.

This doesn’t even count the kids’ school itself, who has already had at least EIGHT fundraisers this school year alone!  That isn’t even counting the classic fundraisers, like book fair, which hasn’t even happened yet (but it is on the calendar to arrive three times this year!).  And the part that is beginning to urk at me is that I’m not seeing where the money is going.  You would think that, every so often, they’d say “art supplies purchased through fundraising efforts” or something like that, but it doesn’t happen (and, yes, I have been on the PTA as well and have rarely heard about funds, other than they always need more).  I’m sure the money is going somewhere in the school, but sometimes I wonder if they are fundraising just to throw bigger fundraisers like art shows and fall festivals – because they are always broke!

Now, I have been a volunteer in multiple groups, and when I ran a Girl Scout troop I ultimately ended up over the finances as well, because people make commitments then stop showing up.  I would always go out of my way to say “we can plan a trip to Build-A-Bear with our Fall Product money,” or the like, just so it’s clear that I was using the funds on the girls and in ways that they were choosing.  However, to date I’m the only one I’ve ever known to explain where the money was used, or to keep the troop’s spending and financial records open for the parents to view.  Every other group just drills it into the ground that they NEED more money without ever explaining why or where it’s being used.  After all, in soccer, if I’m paying for my kids to play, paying for their uniforms, balls, shoes, shin guards, and trophy/party at the end of the season, what exactly do you need more money for, coach?  I’d just like to know!  Or, this is just me thinking out loud here, maybe the kids don’t need a t-shirt for every club they join.  Especially not the ones that only last 2-3 months and don’t even compete.

I’m not a rich woman, and it’s gotten to where I can’t keep up with it any more, so I’m changing my status from begrudging participant to politely declining.  I would prefer pay outright for what my kids need (hey, coach, I’ll donate a soccer ball if that helps you!) rather than keep shoveling out money for expensive products or services that I would never buy otherwise.  For example, I have never chosen to go to Dominos to eat – I don’t have a problem with them, I’ve gone with friends before, but I just prefer other places more – so buying a $10 Dominos discount card isn’t a wise choice for me.  I have something to do every evening of the week, so I’m tired of trying to run across three cities to get to a spirit nights at Chick-Fil-A before it ends.  Book fares are outdated now that Amazon or eBay will have the book for a fraction of the price.  I absolutely do not like Girl Scout cookies – which is weird, I know, because I love a lot of cookies, but the varieties that we get here do not appeal to me at all.  And, I really don’t need to buy overpriced wrapping paper when I normally get it from the Dollar Tree, nor do I need to buy flower bulbs when I can buy giant bags of them at Walmart for $5.

At one point, our now former Cub Scouts pack started asking me to buy/donate full uniforms for Scouts who couldn’t afford them.  I was the only one approached, but I was singled out with a small group of people.  I thought that was interesting, since the uniform isn’t really required in scouting.  They like you to have it, but, you aren’t kicked out for not buying it – I also believe the council’s offer financial aid to help cover these types of expenses for less fortunate families.  Mind you, the only reason I didn’t apply for uniform aid myself was because my dad bought my son’s uniform as an early birthday present.  I also thought I was going to lose my mind at being asked to purchase a uniform for a stranger, since the complete package is about $100!  It can be hard enough to get hit up for $5 or $10 cash donations, but to spend $100?!  The pack’s argument was that it was tax deductible to donate a uniform, but my counter point was that I didn’t make enough in a year to pay taxes, so I don’t get tax deductions!

What I’ve also learned is that if you say “yes,” donate, purchase, or volunteer once, you are expected to replicate that action for everything that the group does.  To a degree, I don’t mind it, because if I’m just sitting there anyways I’d prefer to be useful.  However, when it comes to the financial/go-sell-this-for-us end of things, I’ve had enough.  I’m tapped out.  I don’t have an extensive network of friends and family to hit up.  My husband will get fired for trying to sell to his co-workers or customers.  So, I’m just pretending not to even see the flyers or hear the phone calls now.  I have to admit, it has taken a lot of stress off of my bank account already.

This school year, I have declined to participate in all but a few fundraisers.  We did the Cub Scout popcorn, which I could sell to family online since I know no one in a five state radius.  They ship it straight to the orderer and I don’t have to stress out about cross-country delivery that way.  And we’ve done our track teams race, along with another race that donated money to our school for each participant.  But, to be fair, we have a race quota to fill in the track team, so it was just a matter of choosing ones that hit two birds with one stone.  I suppose you could count school pictures as a fundraiser too, but that’s a staple item that I think every parent should get every year.

So who’s with me?  I would say it’s my own fault for joining so many groups, but the school has more fundraisers than all the groups combined.  Have I lost touch with the concept of being on a team or part of a community, or have things just gotten out of control in the fundraising department?  From K-12, I have a very clear memory, and I can remember less than a handful of fundraisers popping up (aside from photos/book fares at school), they were all for extra curricular activities like traffic scouts or basketball, and they were few and far inbetween.  Am I the only one who would prefer to pay for what their child needs than to carry around a dozen different order forms each month?

Do You McDojo?

I usually get funny looks from parents when I use the term McDojo. Well, have you ever heard of McMansions? The houses that look really nice and sell for huge sums of money, but they’re made really cheaply, so they get black mold and break down quickly and there were tons of corners cut during manufacturing (no shut off valves on water sources, beams spread out too far apart, really low quality building supplies, etc). Most McMansions require the owner to pray that the building will even pass an inspection so that they can sell it.

That’s pretty much what a McDojo is in the martial arts world, except, the poorly made, rotting house in this situation is your child’s quality of education.  Marital arts can be a lot of things for a lot of people, but it’s not supposed to be a poorly built money pit. Unfortunately, so many parents don’t do enough research upfront, and they spend a lot of money on years of bad lessons.

Here are some of the many ways to spot a crappy, money grubbing McDojo:

  • Is there a camo belt, a pink belt, a navy belt, or jr/sr belts? In the beginning, instructors in Asia gave their students a white belt which would eventually turn yellow from sweat, green from rolling in the grass, red from spilling your blood, and so forth until your belt was so soaked with your journey that it was stained black. There is a philosophic representation for each belt color, so tell me, what does camo represent in Japan? Oh, that’s right, nothing! It’s a different color of belt to get you to pay $100 extra for an unnecessary belt test. The same is true for many belt colors, including the stripped belts to show that you’re in between levels (note:  this does not include the baby programs for children under 6, they should earn belts with stripes). It’s a scam, even if the facility tries to make up their own representation for what that color means.  I’ve heard one instructor try to claim that camo means “lost in the forest,” which isn’t a bad concept to throw at parents, but it’s still not a legitimate belt color.
  • Do you have to buy a new belt or pay for a new test for every degree?  Some places will have you earn three degrees of a brown belt before you are eligible for black, but you should not have to buy a new brown belt for each degree.  Likewise, places who give out junior or senior belts also shouldn’t make you belt test for those colors because they aren’t a new rank, it just means that you STILL aren’t at the next level yet.  Having to pay for this kind of testing is a clear sign of money grubbing.
  • They have more than 8 belts. This varies based on the venue, but, because there are no regulatory or governing offices in most martial art forms, instructors can do whatever they want. In fact, every belt before black is frivolous, and the dojo decides how many belts students must earn, what colors the belts will be, and what order the belts are earned in.  For example, some places place green after blue and red after brown, while others do the opposite.  Most normal martial arts facilities should use 5-8 different colors of belt. Earning more than that only generates more cash for the faculty by charging you for more belt testing.
  • Do you have to join a special Black Belt Club to earn a black belt?  Black Belt Clubs are becoming very common, and they are very expensive because they typically include private lessons on a regular basis.  If you choose to join a Black Belt Club, that’s great, but it should not be a requirement to become a 1st degree black belt.  A good facility will understand that not all students can afford higher tuition rates; a bad facitlity will try to force you to keep paying more and more as you progress.
  • Are you forced to work for the dojo to earn a higher level belt?  A lot of martial arts require upper belts to help instruct the lower belts as an assistant sensei.  That is normal.  However, if the dojo is manipulating that by having students run the front desk, clean the dojo, and/or do other clerical or janitorial work for free, you should run away.  There are some dojos who will allow students or parents to work (“volunteer”) in the dojo if they are having trouble paying tuition (so you work instead of paying the full tuition each month), but this kind of work should never be part of the belt testing requirements!  Students should not be used as slave labor in the dojo, and any work performed outside of assisting in the class setting should be compensated, either with an hourly pay, or with free/discounted training rate.
  • Will the instructors tell you WHY you’re doing what you’re doing?  Well trained martial artists know, move A is a blocking technique for when someone kicks at you, move B is for punching the opponent in the chest, move C is a way to stop an attacker from moving their wrist, etc.  Anyone can watch YouTube videos and learn the moves or forms used in a martial art, but that doesn’t mean that they are being executed properly or effectively.  It would be like a math teacher saying “2 X 2 = 4, now memorize it!” Yes, you will know the correct answer, but without the explanation of how multiplication works you cannot use that knowledge in any practical settings.  For example, my husband started training with a AKA dojo (AVOID THOSE!) and he learned all of the form movements, however, that was the extent of the training.  When we moved and he began classes at a JKA dojo the instructor pointed out repeatedly how the form was wrong and ineffective during a fight (things like, you have to put power into the move, this stance is to block a kick so you must respond like this, etc).
  • They brag about titles.  Now, if you earn a title, it’s good to be proud of it, but a true martial artist isn’t trying to cram it down your throat and will have some modesty about themselves.  They will show you through their actions how skilled they are, not through their constant bragging.  For instance, if someone says they are a Grandmaster, and, therefore, you must bow down and treat them like the god of Karate, they are no-good ego maniacs who obviously do not get anything about the philosophy of Karate or the element of self-control (ie, the most powerful guy in the room doesn’t spend all his time flexing his muscles for other people to see).  Similarly, some schools will brag that their classes are taught by a world champion.  Now, that may be true, but martial arts is a very competition heavy system and there are hundreds of world champions titled every year.  Anyone who wants to turn a profit can start a tournament system and proclaim a world champion at the end of their season – they are just like dance and baseball league competitions.  Yes, the winner still had to earn the title and defeat opponents to get it, but some competition circuits are much more competitive than others.  Some are new, or have bad reputations, and a world champion may have only been selected  from a pool of 20 other competitors.  So, in some competitions, being crowned the world champion is like having the top GPA in your home school class.  Whether you have titles or not makes no difference in how well you are able to teach others – that is what is most important in a sensei!
  • This is really an extension of the last point, but research any titles that a dojo gives to you!  Google is in everyone’s phone these days, so there’s no excuse to accept anyone’s word for anything!  My husband started Karate in a little town, and the man who ran the dojo claimed the titles of WKU Hall of Famer and 1998 Olympic Gold Medalist in Karate.  It sounded wonderfully impressive, but guess what the reality was?  WKU was not any kind of martial arts association, it stood for Western Kentucky University.  WKU also had a list of every athletic Hall of Fame inductee that they’ve ever had, and guess who’s name wasn’t on that list?  Sensei’s!  In fact, all of their inductees were from team sports like baseball, soccer, football, etc – there was not a single member on there for any martial art!  Now, I’m guessing that information wasn’t published on the WKU website in the early 2000s, but it is certainly up there now!  Then, if you look up the 1998 Olympics, first, they were Winter Olympics, second, Karate has never been an Olympic sport!  You can only get an Olympic Gold Medal in Karate if you are doing the Junior Olympics, at which point in time Sensei would have been in his late 30s.  It turned out that this sensei was a drug addict who made up a nice background for himself to teach people nothing (well, maybe what he learned watching Bruce Lee movies) and get paid for it.
  • The head of the dojo won’t share his lineage.  Martial arts lineage, that is. Anyone who has trained and earned their right to be an instructor (again its not regulated so anyone can claim to be a 200th degree black belt) should have no problem telling you who trained them and where that facility is located.  Be very wary of anyone who claims to have been trained in another country, or if they claim that their old dojo is now closed down.  Either of these scenarios could be very true, but it’s also an easy way to con people.  I took a trial lesson from a Kung Fu Master who would not speak of his lineage.  I ended up getting a bad vibe and not attending that facility, but, when I did start lessons at another facility a few months later, I was told that the bad-vibe guy had a suspicious lineage.  I ask what that meant and was told by my instructor that this man had been a lower level sash, then disappeared for a few years and came back claiming to be a black sash from China, with no proof of his time in training.  You would think that, if people are questioning you, you would at least show a passport stamp, photos, or something to try and legitimize your claim.
  • The dojo won’t allow you to wear a blank uniform.  It’s very common for martial arts venues to have uniforms with their logo on the back, and many places will give them out for free with your registration fee, but once your child starts to grow then you’ll be paying $30-100 for a new uniform at the dojo.  To the contrary, eBay and online realtors are flooded with uniforms that are blank (no logo on the back) and cost a fraction of the dojo’s expense, so, they are a much better deal for the parents.  Some dojos will not allow you to wear any uniform without their personal logo on it, which is a shallow and ridiculous way to force you to spend money on THEIR advertising.  Tournament uniforms may be another story, since you are representing that facility, but the normal day-to-day uniform should not have to have the school’s logo on it.  Note:  it is bad taste to attend Dojo A and wear a uniform with Dojo B’s logo on it, so please do not do that!  That is not what I am promoting here!  But no-logo uniforms should not be an issue.
  • They won’t compete.  I’m not a fan of competitions, but if your dojo will not compete at all, that is a red flag warning that you’re paying for bad classes that are sub-standard.  Unless a dojo is relatively new, they should have a competition team, or a good reason not to have one (ie, you live 300 miles from the nearest big city).  Also watch out for things like “our moves are too dangerous for tournaments,” or “I’ve developed my own personal style,” because that’s just a way to con you even further.
  • They require competitions to advance.  People should compete because they enjoy it and they have a talent for it.  Tournaments can be expensive and full of potential to get hurt, so they are NOT for everyone.  However, some dojos require you to fill your sensei’s ego and enter a number of tournaments to get your next belt.  A dojo that requires tournament participation is one that is desperate to gain credibility, and plenty of black belts have never been in a contest.
  • The belt test fees sky rocket after you’re a few belts in.  Belt testing fees are normal, but having to earn and pay for a dozen belts is not.  Be wary of fees that go up exponentially, and ask for the full range of belt testing fees before you commit to a dojo.  A wholesale belt costs $3, and the instructor’s time to test you isn’t worth another $42, or more, for the three minutes you’ll have his attention during your test.  In fact, while most facilities will do belt testing days, they are not at all required in the martial arts system, and an instructor could award a belt at any time if he sees that his student is ready.  Unfortunately, so much revenue is made from testing that most dojos have adopted them and made them mandatory, and quite a number of the dojos charge $45 for the first few tests, then $100 or more for the others.
  • They won’t talk about fees.  I have spoken with dojos before that have given me the line “well, you have to come do a two week free trial and see the BENEFITS of martial arts for yourself, then we’ll talk about the price!”  I told them where they could stick it!  I think hiding behind a free trial period and hiding your fees from your potential clients is on the same level as crack dealers who give you a free “taste” to get you hooked.  They want you pumped up about martial arts, then talk to you while you’re on a work out high so that they can charge you whatever they want.
  • They have attendance quotas to advance.  This is ridiculous!  Belt advancement is supposed to be about the student’s individual ability, not how many classes they paid for!  If you have to attend 10 , 20, or even 70 classes to test for a belt, than that just means that the instructor wants to milk more tuition out of you in between belt tests.  Ask about the length of time it takes to acquire a black belt.  For an adult who attends classes once per week, it should only take about three years to go from white to black.  If they tell you five to six years, they are holding you back for more tuition revenue.  If they tell you one year, they are not giving you quality instruction and are just passing students through to get their money fast, before they realize it’s a scam.
  • If they claim to be a JKA or WTF or whatever affiliated school, are they actually registered and listed on the respective parent sites?  Not all associations list their memberships online, but you should be able to find out with a phone call.  I was tricked into signing my kids up for a WTF Tae Kwon Do school (WTF is the system the Olympics follows) and found out that they used the title WTF, but they did everything in ATA style (which it the Americanized, give-us-money-for-low-quality-training/nickle-and-dime the parents system).
  • They have a lot of little black belts.  Children might take up to ten years to earn their black belt.  Depending on a child’s talent, and how old they are when they begin, they may require less time.  However, if you notice a lot of young children in black belts, or a lot of people in general wearing black belts, then that dojo isn’t doing a good job, and they are passing kids through whether they are capable of doing black belt level work or not.
  • The sensei is constantly unavailable to speak with parents.  He won’t answer emails or phone calls and hides behind his office staff so that you can never ask him a question or address a concern.  This is the sign of an immature, inexperienced instructor who is terrified of someone questioning him.  A person who has nothing to hide always makes time to speak with his clients (eventually), but someone who ignores and avoids his clients all the time should be a big red flag.
  • If they are MMA, there should be NO BELTS.  MMA means mixed martial arts, as in the instructor just does random things and charges you money for it.  There is no style, no philosophy, and no belt system to go with it.  But, again, Boy Scouts shops have more restrictions on who can buy their merit badges than any martial art has on who may pass out a black belt.  I’ll tell you what, for $500 I will watch a video of your child spazing out, and if I like what I see, I’ll send you a black belt in Ran-Dom, along with a certificate that I authorized that black belt.  THAT is the level of regulations that all of martial arts has; it’s an honor system, so of course some people exploit it.

Not all dojos who do one or two of these things are bad, just like a not all McDojo’s will fulfill every warning on this list.  What’s important is that you do your research and know what is and is not normal.  Now, if you don’t care what little Tommy and Susie are doing, as long as they are out of your hair for an hour, that’s also your call, but I’m a believer of getting what I pay for, so I personally try not to support false advertisers who are in business to bleed you dry.